Welcome to Season 3 Episode 31, where we cover the Prologue through Chapter 1 of Blue Lily, Lily Blue!

Shannon starts off this season totally subdued and not at all excited to be covering BLLB… YAH RIGHT! We kick off the first two chapters of Blue Lily, Lily Blue reintroducing the characters, their quest, and a bottomless pit. Who really is the MacGuffin in this book? How many pages of a novel could possibly take place only in a cave? How many Deep Dive pages did Shannon have to delete about animals, and how many did Nievita delete about ghosts?

Actually, I don’t think we answer any of those questions, but we do talk about the topics of crappy highschool poetry, why Sassy Adam is the Best Adam, who is Nievita’s BROTP of the Raven Cycle, how to tell a jig from a reel, how incredibly gross humans can be (SO GROSS), and reiterate, “When in doubt, always blame Niall.” If you have read Call Down The Hawk, stick around after the stinger for our new SPOILER ZONE!

DEEP DIVE: Cave Systems of Appalachia (from approx. the 36:42 minute mark to 54:38, depending on your player)

SPOILER ZONE: Call Down The Hawk Spoiler Discussion starts at approx. 1:34:02

CORRECTION: Nievita stated from memory that Blue Lily, Lily Blue was originally titled “The White Lily”. Maggie’s post was later found saying the title was “White Lily, Blue Lily”

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Links to Articles, Websites, and Other Discussions:

Maggie’s Facebook post about original title of Blue Lily, Lily Blue: https://www.facebook.com/MaggieStiefvaterAuthorPage/photos/a.414591764465/10159673604594466/
Article for Barnes and Noble about Blue Lily, Lily Blue: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/blog/maggie-stiefvater-on-catoptrophobia-and-blue-lily-lily-blue/
Before the World Was Made: https://shenandoahliterary.org/blog/2017/03/before-the-world-was-made-by-w-b-yeats/
The Element of Air: https://www.orderofthewhitelion.com/the-element-air/
Episode 3, Deep Dive on Ley Lines: https://ravingirls.podiant.co/e/ravin-girls-ep3-sleepless-in-henrietta-35a21d2e40f600/
The Unified Theory of Muppet Types: https://slate.com/human-interest/2012/06/chaos-theory.html
What is a MacGuffin?: https://www.writingclasses.com/toolbox/articles/what-is-a-mcguffin
Laughter: https://www.apa.org/monitor/jun06/laughing
Maggie’s tweet about BLLB being set entirely in a cave: https://twitter.com/mstiefvater/status/1175396717744861185
Maggie’s tweet about her time in Luray Caverns: https://twitter.com/mstiefvater/status/1175397512909414406
https://americanlifestylemag.com/discover/travel/cave-expectations/
The Sinks of Gandy: https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/west-virginia/sinks-of-gandy-underground-river-wv/
Cave Creatures of Appalachia: http://appvoices.org/2019/04/08/fascinating-cave-creatures-of-appalachia/
Cave salamander didn’t move for seven years: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/salamander-not-move-lazy-olm-proteus-european-cave-lifespan-a9314951.html
Mammoth Cave: https://www.nationalparks.org/explore-parks/mammoth-cave-national-park
Carter Caves: https://parks.ky.gov/parks/resortparks/carter-caves/
Organ Cave: http://www.organcave.com/
Lost World Caverns: https://www.lostworldcaverns.com/about/
Floyd Collins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Collins
Floyd Collins (1996 musical): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Collins_(musical)
Floyd’s body returned to his family: https://apnews.com/5489ddac81324b8f338cc1586e89e30c
Folk Hero’s Final Burial: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1989-03-26-8903290884-story.html
Floyd Collins’ Ghost: https://www.wave3.com/story/20284357/tour-guide-says-long-dead-explorer-haunts-mammoth-cave/
Cherokee legend: https://allthatsinteresting.com/moon-eyed-people
Moon-eyed People: https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/north-carolina/legend-of-moon-eyed-people-nc/
Moon-Eyed People and their rock structures: https://journal.com.ph/editorial/mysteries/strange-mystery-moon-eyed-people-appalachians
Welsh descendants: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/dec/26/country-diary-the-moon-eyed-grey-squirrel-has-stories-to-tell
A Swiftly Tilting Planet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Swiftly_Tilting_Planet
Fairy Crosses and Effigy: https://www.wral.com/news/local/video/16602715/
Death of Floyd Collins by John Prine and Mac Wiseman ℗ 2007: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7j766oo4Ts
Appalachian Caverns Ghost Walks: https://www.appalachianghostwalks.com/haunted-historic-tennessee-ghost-tours/appalachian-caverns-ghost-walk-tour.html
Murder Squash Song by HARBOR: https://harbor-music.bandcamp.com/track/the-murder-squash-song
Maggie on a jig vs. a reel: https://twitter.com/mstiefvater/status/1175403509891645440

**MAGGIEWATCH**
Maggie met with Catherine Hardwicke in LA in mid-February, presumably to talk about the Raven Cycle TV show. The wait on this has been quite long, but there is some hope in the fact that they are still meeting and talking about it! https://www.facebook.com/MaggieStiefvaterAuthorPage/photos/a.414591764465/10159791476594466

Announcements:
Unfortunately, right now we are not sure when we will be able to record and release further episodes for Season 3. We have been isolated from each other since early March, the time when we had really thought we would be kicking this new season into high gear. We apologize for further delays.

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Acknowledgements:
The Raven Cycle,The Dreamer Trilogy, and all affiliated properties (The Raven Boys, The Dream Thieves, Blue Lily, Lily Blue, The Raven King, and Call Down The Hawk) are copyright Maggie Stiefvater and Scholastic, Inc. The Ravin’ Girls reference these properties for the purpose of literary analysis.

Intro and Outro music by Damiano Baldoni, used under CC Attribution License: http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Damiano_Baldoni/Lost_Dinasty/
The original “Death Of Floyd Collins”, recorded by Vernon Dalhart, 1926: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qoR1s4434
“Tequila” © The Champs 1958, released by SME (on behalf of Rhino) and EMI Music Publishing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDD21ZJF3mI
Sound effects found on FreeSound.org, attribution where requested.

“Cave Drips” sounds by everythingsounds, used under CC Attribution License: https://freesound.org/people/everythingsounds/sounds/199515/
“Rocks Falling In Cave” sounds from Freesound.org, used under CC Attribution License: https://freesound.org/people/150134/sounds/327085/
“Raven Flyby” sounds from Freesound.org, no copyright: https://freesound.org/people/JamesOC/sounds/86883/
“Ducks Landing” sounds from Freesound.org, used under CC Attribution License: https://freesound.org/people/uair01/sounds/86567/
“Nature - Field-recording- Ravens” by lmr9, used under Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0: https://freesound.org/people/lmr9/sounds/265342/

All original tracks have been edited for the podcast.